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Jason Xang	The ultimate stretch!!!	Lead	[-]
Posts: 16 (06/09/08 11:48:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Hey everyone! Jason here! The other day I was watching the roof top fight from Jackie chan's who am I, and when I saw Smoorenburg do the standing spilts I melted. I've been told that just stretching will get me there, but I've about maxed splits flexibility out. I think muscular strength is required but I'm not sure how to build muscle for that. any suggestions? Thanks in Advance.
sifusocky		#1	[-]
Posts: 548 (06/10/08 00:02:06) Screen Fighter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I think it can be done, although I should point out that 'movie magic' may have helped Smoorenberg out. The shot was filmed from a low angle, which would make his stretch look higher, and secondly, it's possible he may have been on a wire. Ken Lo did the same trick in Drunken Master 2 and was wired for that. It's probably still possible though. ~Mike Reckless Ninja Squad (my stunt team) - http://ninjasquad.wayofthesocky.co.uk Way of the Socky (kung fu movie reviews) - http://www.wayofthesocky.co.uk
recklessninja		#2	[-]
Posts: 35 (06/10/08 08:48:09) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yea its possible,theres some XMA girls in the UK who can do it,albeit slightly different.I think its down to weird genetics,or possibly doin a lot of hip flexor stretches,isolating muscle building in that area alone.It will never happen with normal stretching.so yea,the most likely reason being movie magic.tho Ken Lo did do the same stretch from DM2 in City Hunter,and that didnt look wired,hard to tell tho admittedly
paul51484		#3	[-]
Posts: 2384 (06/10/08 08:53:54) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yeah, it's not just being able to do a split that gets you to that point, but it's leg strength. You need to build muscular strength as well as flexibility. My two suggestions: 1) Practice kicking really slowly as high as you can, this way the leg is used to not relying on things like momentum, but the muscles, to hold the leg up. 2) Hold a side kick out about as high as you can, then stretch it up a little higher in a pump kind of fashion, don't kick it out, just stretch it. This should help increase flexibility at height. In the Chinese version of Jackie Chan My Stunts, it shows Ken Lo holding his leg straight up & pressing on it with his hand to try to get it to go farther.
DragonfighterX		#4	[-]
Posts: 2544 (06/10/08 15:34:43) Action Superstar! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I wouldn't want to be that flexible myself. When you get that "gummy" you lose a lot of muscular leverage and strength.
sifusocky		#5	[-]
Posts: 551 (06/10/08 15:35:51) Screen Fighter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Weird, so why did they put him on a wire for DM2? Because he quite clearly is. Still an insane stretch either way mind. ~Mike Reckless Ninja Squad (my stunt team) - http://ninjasquad.wayofthesocky.co.uk Way of the Socky (kung fu movie reviews) - http://www.wayofthesocky.co.uk
paul51484		#6	[-]
Posts: 2389 (06/10/08 15:49:30) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Weird, so why did they put him on a wire for DM2? Because he quite clearly is. Who knows. My reasoning is that he could hold it, but not for that long or he could get his leg that high, but not as smoothly as he does with a wire. I don't think he was wired for closing the door in City Hunter (not 100% sure about that, though). Maybe they also did a million takes, too. When I saw him hold it in My Stunts & he was using his hand to push his stretch- maybe he needs a hand on the other end to do it without a wire.
micah9		#7	[-]
Posts: 947 (06/10/08 20:50:28) Screen Fighter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	yeah i will say some people have different bone structure and musculature, not greatly like a centaur or anything, but enough to make a difference in certain stretches. for instance, my bone structure makes me real lazy and addicted to redbull.
sifusocky		#8	[-]
Posts: 552 (06/11/08 01:49:01) Screen Fighter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Now I come to think of it, didn't Ken Lo also do the high-stretch-leg-hold in Thunderbolt as well (the casino scene)? It's been about five years since I've seen it so it might be someone else. ~Mike Reckless Ninja Squad (my stunt team) - http://ninjasquad.wayofthesocky.co.uk Way of the Socky (kung fu movie reviews) - http://www.wayofthesocky.co.uk
recklessninja		#9	[-]
Posts: 36 (06/11/08 13:54:08) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yea,he did do the same leg hold in Thunderbolt,except he used his hand to support the leg.It was very brief tho,so Paul could be right in saying perhaps he cant hold it that long.
paul51484		#10	[-]
Posts: 2393 (06/11/08 16:18:09) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Or maybe it just proves that he needs the aid of the hand in order to do it without a wire.
RobP		#11	[-]
Posts: 266 (06/23/08 06:26:27) Extra Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	It's possible to do but what happens on film (I'll bet my bottom dollar on this) is that they're not really doing full splits. But the angle from which they film gives the illusion that it's full splits. I tried this out myself a while back. If you can hold a static sidekick up above your head then try doing that towards a mirror (ie: kicking at the mirror) and pulling your chest across to your side. Now imagine looking at yourself from a lower angle. It'd look like your leg was even higher. If you can get your leg up reasonably higher you should be able to capture the illusion without getting FULL static splits in the air. Trust me on this, dude. I'm pretty damn flexible but the difference between static stretches where the ground holds you in place and static stretches in the air where your muscles need to hold you in place is MASSIVE. Especially for splits. Man On A Mission Films If you work for a living why kill yourself working?

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