I shot another fight yesterday. I intended to send it to Micah as an audition for Beat Down Boogie (explaining the opening line), but I realized that it's
not nearly good enough, so I'll just post it here. I've figured out what the majority of the problems with my fights are, but what I have a hard time
with is fixing them. Crits and advice would be massively appreciated.
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Tryin' again...
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Posts: 175 (08/26/08 09:41:32) Extra |
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Posts: 2743 (08/26/08 11:12:51) Action Hero |
All the moves look staged. Most of the hits do not line up and reactions are fairly weak. Practice at the hand work more and don't be afraid to get those
punches closer.
The cutting has lots of jump cuts and doesn't flow so set up your shots to where they'll connect better.
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Posts: 176 (08/26/08 12:35:17) Extra |
K. Anything else specific I can do differently?
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Posts: 4334 (08/26/08 13:17:11) Action Superstar! |
The main problem is it is not fast enough, try move quicker and make it less 'stiff looking'
Also the sound effects were poor as some weren't there or they were just mis-timed. Another problem is that most of it looks as if you both know what move is coming next, it looks to prepared and almost robotic. Try and work on speed and make it more natural. Camera angles were fine and varied, although sometimes you went off the screen a tad!
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Posts: 2802 (08/26/08 15:31:43) Action Superstar! |
"Robotic" is a good word to describe the fight. You're both waaaaay too tense, and it shows. You're obviously standing around waiting for
hits to connect. Loosen up! Don't keep your arms plastered up there in that guard. Add some bounce, relax, make it flow. Everything was just 1, 2, 3,
extremely rehearsed looking, there was no emotion. One of the biggest flaws was neither of you reacted to strikes at all. A simple turn of the head isn't
really good enough. Especially at the end when the long-haired guy kicks the other guy on the ground (sorry, don't know which is you); it looked like he
was kicking at a cinderblock, the victim didn't react at all.
The choreo wasn't bad, but it was a little head-scratching in places, and pretty choppy. Try to hit more of a rhythm. It doesn't have to look like a dance number, but it will help break up those places where sometimes a lot of techniques are thrown and sometimes just one or two. |
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Posts: 1131 (08/26/08 21:51:26) Screen Fighter |
man i feel humbled and honored over these threads popping up with new material motivated by Boogie. At least if nothing else it got some people to gloss up
their promos so far, lol.
I'm not that good at screen-fighting myself, but one thing my MA background helped with is knowing realistic speed in giving and receiving strikes, and being comfortable with fast feet and fists flying around me. What you might want to do is just practice some drills with your partner for a while to build up the speed of your moves, blocks and counters. One thing I learned from Eric on Dogs is counting down to your first move, saying "1, 2.." and on 3 throwing the first move. You might incorporate that into the drills. Maybe start with a simple punch and block and try to get it as fast as possible, then add in a counter-punch or another move into the combo once your original set of moves is realistically fast. I think if you do loosen up a little, you can find ways to throw fast but without investing too much power or force in the strike. Apart from that, at this stage, you could work the camerawork and editing more creatively to cover most shortcomings. Maybe find fights you like and you feel you could emulate technique-wise and study the cutting pace and angles. Keep it up man, there's some promising moments in there. |
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Posts: 66 (08/27/08 01:54:38) |
I agreed with what micah said. Create some simple sparring sets that incorporates punches, blocks, kicks and avoid/dodge to practise on the pace, reflex and
speed with your partner. The more you work on it, you will develop a some rhythm and distance with your patner. Later stage, when both are comfortable with
each other's timing, basically you are able to choreo whatever move you can think of and minimize time during the shooting to get the best shot.
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Posts: 178 (08/27/08 06:01:42) Extra |
Thanks for the advice! I noticed the stiffness in Matt (my opponent), but I didn't realize that I was doing it, too. I'll definitely work on that.
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