Test Fight#4

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CHongL	Test Fight#4	Lead	[-]
Posts: 49 (08/17/08 07:52:36) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Tags : None Hey guys!! Its me again. Another test fight. This time is with our man behind the camera. TJ is our cameraman for almost all the videos they we did. This is his first time being in front of the camera. Pretty good job for a first timer escpecially on the acting part. For this vid, i'm doing the camerawork and MESSING with it like mad!! hhahaha. Did the best i could. So tell me guys what's your comments...on everything. Here's the link. Comments comments comments!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbzF_p989nY Cheers, Hong LAProd (Malaysia)
Graeme Noble		#1	[-]
Posts: 4280 (08/17/08 08:47:06) Action Superstar! Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Very good, I really liked this. The sound is amazing by the way, you really feel the atmosphere, some nice moves in there and the camera angles are on the whole good. The pace of the fight is also decent. It's not super fast but I don't always think that super speed is the best and this is fast enough for me not to complain. Nice work! Graeme Noble Kung Fu Hall of Fame
CHongL		#2	[-]
Posts: 51 (08/18/08 22:02:02) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks Graeme for the comments. Glad you like it. In the begining before shooting, I absolutely no idea how this will turn out to be as i was exploring the angles as i go along. I'm quite suprised the end result that this came out decent. I was able to pull the best out from this two fighters. Another vid coming next week. Cheers, HOng.
Masterkiller67		#3	[-]
Posts: 1852 (08/18/08 22:13:07) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hermmmmmm, I feel like this is a bit of a step down from your previous 2 fights, which were stellar, for the most part. A lot of the moves in this fight feel a bit sloppy, and the reactions in certain cases don't sell as well as they could. There's a pretty big problem with moves sticking after they are thrown (just holding like a punch out even after it's been blocked or after it hits something), and a lot of the punches that miss are clearly thrown overhead. The intensity is still there, but without some refining of the movements, it won't be as convincing as it could be. Keep it up though man! Your work's been pretty solid since you joined the board, and I'm sure it can only get better! For a first timer, this guy's performance is pretty damn good! Jon Truei Surprise-Terminated Films "Live forever...or DIE TRYING!!!"
Catatau		#4	[-]
Posts: 1 (08/19/08 02:26:24) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all, Choon here! I'd pretty much agree with what Mk67 said, which was kinda what I expected. With talents like Chee Hong and Michelle (Test Fight #2), it's pretty much impossible for TJ and I to top that. Kinda like asking someone to eat vanilla-flavoured ice-cream after they've had Cookies & Cream. Still, considering that I feel uncomfortable seeing myself fight, I didn't think it was that bad.
Masterkiller67		#5	[-]
Posts: 1855 (08/19/08 02:38:29) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Catatau wrote: Still, considering that I feel uncomfortable seeing myself fight, I didn't think it was that bad. Oh no, not at all. But it could ,and in due time I'm sure, WILL be better. XD. Jon Truei Surprise-Terminated Films "Live forever...or DIE TRYING!!!"
Catatau		#6	[-]
Posts: 2 (08/19/08 02:44:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Haha, hopefully!
CHongL		#7	[-]
Posts: 54 (08/19/08 03:40:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yo Choon!! Welcome to the board. Like MK 46 said, u and TJ will be improve in due time. The main idea for the test fights we are doing almost everyweek, is to see how each of us perform on screen. We all have weakness to work on. So, in our practise session later on, we drill more on our weakness. cheers, HOng.
spidermexican		#8	[-]
Posts: 1717 (08/20/08 00:58:48) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ok, so first off, welcome to the boards Choon! and also Chong, its MK 67 NOT 46, haha. But anyways on to the critique... I agree with what Jon said, and that while the intensity and overall edits and angles were fantastic and well done, the FLOW of the fight was very skewed, which means that it felt like too many slight pauses in between reactions and choreo. I think there is definitely alot of good points and both TJ and Choon can portray reactions and intensity well, but you really need to have them sell the movements. Again, being able to do rhythm and timing is meaningless if your moves dont look like their selling. I do understand its their first time, and don't get me wrong, its not like I didn't enjoy it. I still think it was a good piece of work, but of course things can get better. You shouldn't view your mistakes or what you need to work on as "weaknesses" but merely attributes that you wish to refine and make better. Everyone has their good and bad points and its up to you as a performer to enhance, utilize, and show off the good points, while hiding the bad. There are little things to say about the whole fight in general, but I won't because its their first fight, and plus I'm sure both can see what went great and what went wrong, plus with Chong looking after it, he can tell too. You guys are keeping up really good work, so keep doing so! It will only get better and even for this, this is not a bad intro at all. Good job to everyone! I look forward to the next video. Manny Lazy Brown Productions LBP Demo Reel 2008 My Demo Reel 2008 Lazy Brown Productions Myspace Alive Not Dead Myspace
Catatau		#9	[-]
Posts: 3 (08/20/08 03:37:46) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey there, Manny! (Loved Mysteries of Time & Space, btw) One issue for me is that Test Fight 2 & 3 pretty much set the bar pretty high when it came to TJ and I doing our thing. I don't think I can move as fast or pull off moves like those that came before us. Then again, I AM aware that this one didn't exactly highlight what I can do best (i.e. flexibility and maybe some Capo moves). I'm generally very careful when thinking thoughts like "improving in the future" since I'm already 28 years old, not exactly a spring chicken no more. Then again, I'm not exactly an optimist either. Maybe I'm taking this a bit too seriously as well, but to know this, I think we should know what Chee Hong really wants to take our team to in the end (i.e. fun? fame? fortune?). I do admit that a couple of times since we started, I wondered what's the whole point to all this. Choon
CHongL		#10	[-]
Posts: 57 (08/20/08 05:53:17) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Thanks Jon & Manny for the feedback and sorry Jon, for the 46, i think its better for me to refer you as Jon. I get mixed up pretty easily with numbers. ...and Manny pls call me Hong not Chong. Well, to me all those pointers are valid and as well for myself to learn more. We will go on a step by step basis to improve things. So far i am happy with the outcome of all the videos we done so far. I am still exploring in doing the shooting and learning from here. All these test fights is helpful to enable me to learn what shot can makes the performers look good and what doesn't. Choon, I am doing this purely as a hobby,not getting into fame or fortune or anything like that. Its purely having fun together, trying new stuffs outside from our regular trainings, have a good workout in our own training, exchange of ideas, meet new friends, and built stronger friendships. I am not a professional myself in doing all this, therefore i am not setting any levels here nor having any high expectation from any of you guys. I'm putting the clips here for myself to learn more about shooting action because i have this passion and also for any of you guys who are interested to learn from here. I am sorry that i didn't make it clear in the beginning. I will explain futher to the team when we meet up this Sat. Everyone did a good job. Cheers, Hong
spidermexican		#11	[-]
Posts: 1718 (08/20/08 07:11:30) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	and Manny pls call me Hong not Chong. I wrote that at like 4am here! leave me alone! hahaha. Lazy Brown Productions LBP Demo Reel 2008 My Demo Reel 2008 Lazy Brown Productions Myspace Alive Not Dead Myspace
chelle		#12	[-]
Posts: 1 (08/20/08 19:33:38) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all, this is Michelle..regarding of what Choon mentioned, I don't place myself on the talent side but hard train..Choon u have got all the flexibility others dream of getting. It's really a matter of time for us to improve and I am so excited seeing this day to come...yea!! Ya Hong you did mention about having fun and working out, that s y i see saturday training as an activities to share, play ,have fun, relax and making new friends... I have to say thank to u all for letting me know beside competition ring, there is something so interesting to explore and learn, guys really light up my life. And thanks for the compliments and advices given..kamsahamidah..
chelle		#13	[-]
Posts: 2 (08/20/08 19:33:42) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hi all, this is Michelle..regarding of what Choon mentioned, I don't place myself on the talent side but hard train..Choon u have got all the flexibility others dream of getting. It's really a matter of time for us to improve and I am so excited seeing this day to come...yea!! Ya Hong you did mention about having fun and working out, that s y i see saturday training as an activities to share, play ,have fun, relax and making new friends... I have to say thank to u all for letting me know beside competition ring, there is something so interesting to explore and learn, guys really light up my life. And thanks for the compliments and advices given..kamsahamidah.. Last Edited By: chelle 08/20/08 19:46:30. Edited 2 times.
Catatau		#14	[-]
Posts: 4 (08/20/08 23:16:00) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hey Michelle, if, you haven't, you really should check out the compliments the guys here are giving you over Test Fight 2.
stuntpeople		#15	[-]
Posts: 7120 (08/21/08 06:27:05) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Ya #2 was good. This was alright but the punching definitely needs some work. The kicks looked great though. Eric Jacobus The Stunt People
CHongL		#16	[-]
Posts: 59 (08/21/08 08:09:32) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Yea Manny, I know its 4am your time when i saw you online. Just keep you occupied while you finish rendering your work. Hi Eric, thanks for the comment. How's the outcome for Dogs?
stuntpeople		#17	[-]
Posts: 7123 (08/21/08 10:28:54) Administrator Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Dogs was good, I think you guys will dig it. Eric Jacobus The Stunt People
darrenh7		#18	[-]
Posts: 2736 (08/21/08 21:07:07) Action Hero Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Was this sped up? Because the moves looked a little unnatural. Some kicks were nice but a lot of the punches need more emotion... yes you guys are yelling... but there's a bit more to it. I liked some of the camerawork. DARDREX PRODUCTIONS. No life! A camera! And High kicks! Kung Fu San So, Shotokan Karate, Muay Thai, Taekwondo, and Jeet Kune Do. http://www.youtube.com/user/dardrex777
CHongL		#19	[-]
Posts: 60 (08/21/08 23:15:34) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	hi darren, Thanks for the comments. Some parts of the clips was sped up intentionally. To me it doesn't look that obvious. thanks for liking some of the cam-works.
Bpro Elwin		#20	[-]
Posts: 766 (08/22/08 01:37:42) Screen Fighter Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hmm! Nice one Hong~! Good energy and good flow in the editing! I liked the kicking and the little bits of humor. Facial expressions were good! (something that is very often overlooked) Keep up the good work! greetings Elwin 'got my own action figure' Rijken

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